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totally meant it as flatter! don’t worry my own dad totally disappeared from my mind when i saw the belts 😂 i could only think of hongjoong and his baby and seonghwa’s beautiful red ass
speaking of daddy issues i got my dad a gift all on my own a couple days ago but i legit have no notion of what a good present for a dad is from an adult child (my parents are divorced) so i was looking at like wallets and stuff like that then i came across the belts and all that came to mind was abmb hongjoong so in had to move on to the next option right away
Please take your time, sweet lys. I’m really grateful for this update… God. My emotions are all over the place. Being inside Hj’s head fucked me up, and my daddy issues did NOT help in the least. I’m at an utter loss of words but please know that you rendered me breathless. I’ll be waiting eagerly as always. But please take care of you. I loved it. I loved it. I loved it. I loved it.🩶
I'm glad you and I, and anyone/everyone(?) else with insane daddy issues are having fun(?) with this fic 😭💔
When I write, getting into either HJ or SH's headspace is always so fucked because I'm pulling from two very different places and experiences when I'm in either of their heads and trying to translate it onto the page. There's a lot of stuff that's difficult to articulate so I turn it over a lot or, admittedly, avoid it for a bit before trying again and therefore take forever to release these chapters.
It's funny because I randomly decided to play with this trope one day, wrote the first two chapters basically all in one go and posted it one after the other, and it was all fun and games before I realised that I actually had to finish the fic and let it go somewhere in order to do so, so then I started taking it seriously and #projecting onto it as a result and then things derailed from there...now it's probably gonna be a 100k monster full of fucked shit.
I don't know what happened. I got possessed.
Thank you very very much for enjoying ABMB. It really was just a self-indulgent thing, so I'm glad others like it as much as they do.
I hope the next two chapters don't disappoint.
Hi! I’m sorry if this a stupid question, but what was the reason for HJ feeding SH the cake in ch8? What was going through his head when he suddenly got up to go get the cake? I love the fic so far, I can’t wait for the rest of chapter 8!
It's not a stupid question at all, don't worry ! I purposely wrote the scene so that HJ's intentions might go over the reader's head because that's how SH would've felt—confused and blindsided.
HJ will touch on it a bit in the second part of the chapter, but what he did was in an effort to make SH understand what coercion feels like. Throughout the fic, SH is constantly ignoring obvious boundaries, even if HJ doesn't state it out loud, his discomfort or reluctance is evident but SH ignores it in pursuit of his own desires.
So HJ did to SH what SH did to him. He ignored SH's discomfort, interrupted his attempts at protest, made it clear that any hope to resist being lead into doing what he didn't want to do would be ignored, and in doing so he forced SH into compliance.
Coercion is a violation and HJ was sick of SH taking advantage of the fact that he isn't in the position to refuse him, so he decided to teach SH a lesson.
I hope this was enough of an explanation. If not, you're always free to question me some more !
Thank you for reading and enjoying ♡
I took my time with ch 8. I sat with and envisioned hj’s inner monologue. Him considering snuffing the life out of the only reason for his own existence. Him weighing his only two options—whether to give in or to kill his baby; as if the third option of refusing his baby isn’t even possible. I’m so deeply in love with you, lys, and I’m glad that I let my desperation for an update be known. The moment hj considered getting high with hj and thus withdrawing from his conscience altogether just so he could give his baby what he so desperately wants from his daddy; but then him wanting to be present in his decisions about his baby. God, lys.
HJ is not okay. He is doing his best with what he has. He can't let SH go/make him leave because SH's too unstable (I have entertained the possibility of HJ making SH leave and SH's reaction is NOT a good one and the only outcome is even worse so I'm not letting that happen)
So all HJ can do is put a stop to the source of his frustration by either ending it by way of force or giving SH what he wants before the violence HJ is expressing outwardly passes the point of control or it turns inward and he becomes self destructive...and he can't afford self-destructive behaviour because SH is dependent on him so....
Naturally, he'll choose the lesser of evils: surrender.
Yes it will come at the cost of sacrificing his morality, sense of self, mental wellness etc etc—BUT ! SH will be happy...and that's all that matters :)
First of all, I wanna say that I absolutely adore how you write the dynamic between Hj and Sh in abmb. Your flow and word choice is also chef's kiss mwah. But there's one suggestion/request I have regarding ch8. Stumbling upon Hj force feeding Sh completely unprepared was incredibly triggering for me, and now I'm not sure if I can finish that fic even though I really want to. Could you maybe consider adding force-feeding as a tag or content warning for the chapter so your other readers can avoid this issue? I also wanna make sure that you know that I don't fault you for not having a cw from the start. I know tags are optional and/or sometimes we might write things we don't even realize could fall under a specific category. So please don't feel guilty for this 💕
I'm so sorry that upset you I just added the tag now and I'll put a warning in the beginning of the chapter too. I thought I'd already added the tag but I completely forgot. The scene was triggering for me too so that's why I took forever to write this particular part even though it's only a few thousand words. Again, I'm really sorry and of course you don't have to keep reading at all. Not checking my tags again was an oversight on my part, so thank you so much for telling me to add it here ♡
I appreciate that you've stuck around this long nonetheless. Thank you.
Is it possible to fall deeply in love with a writer based on how they wrote a character?
I'm assuming you're being unserious but I'll answer as if you aren't...
Hm, I'm not sure.
Relating to a character a lot might make you feel seen and understood amongst other things so attachment to not only the character but the one who created them and therefore 'understands you' in relation to the character might stem from there.
It's the same as favouring any artist, isn't it ? Everyone has their favourite musician, author, etc...because what they create resonates with them deeply on a personal level.
I think only you can answer that question then. Love in any form, any feeling really, is an experience that is different for everyone so who am I to say what love means to you, how far it extends or when or how you feel it ?
Which character are you talking about though ? 👀
In regards to
"will there come a time where he begins to view sh in such a way"
Now that you are asking for clarity and i sit with my question, i think i realize that ive been viewing parts of their relationship from a very "normal society" type of way. Hj is sh's father and im so used to reading stories where characters realize their feelings for eachother and get together. Where the feeling is finally being reciprocated and we get the catharsis we anticipate.
But at this moment hj is just going through it. Battleing between his love for his son and the constant boundry crossing.
On surface level i think i was asking if hj will ever feel any kind of lust or that specific need towards sh.
This was very interesting to think about so thank you very much <3
Ah, I see...I'm not surprised that some might view their relationship and think about it through a 'normal' lens because I imagine that's what most people's point of reference is for a romantic/sexual relationship, right ? Something normal... So it's easy to forget about the elephant in the room while you're reading what is essentially a 'getting together' fic. It's interesting how that works purely because to most people a relationship like this is completely bizarre to imagine the reality of so your brain defaults to thinking about it in ways that you already know and that make sense to you. Of course I'm just deducing one of many reasons somebody might think of ABMB MATZ' relationship that way...
But yes, the love between HJ and SH is already incredibly strong but it isn't a romantic or sexual love, it's a secret third thing that they've got going on. It was of course just a familial bond but now it's been twisted into something much more convoluted due to the romantic and sexual elements thrown in (and the trauma bond they're forming), but at the heart of it, neither of them are in love with each other nor will they ever be...the sort of love they share is so far removed from simply falling/being in love.
As for lust on HJ's part, he definitely feels it and I touched on it before in a previous ask: https://revospring.net/@matztick/a/116904711032926003
I hope that↑ satisfies your curiosity but if it doesn't, feel free to question me some more. I love answering questions because it helps me process and think too ♡
Thank you for reading ABMB !
Just gotta say ur latest chp (prt 1 of chp8) was so insane. There are so many elements that im trying to wrap my mind around(great work) i was wondering, this crash out that hj has, will it impact how sh views him? (Will he fear him a lil?) Also that cake scene💀 that fucking killed me id never be able to even look at a cake (lowk hope that affect sh alot and hj is ridden with guilt about ruining something innocent for his son heh) ik sh is lowk being selfish and rn it kinda seems like hj is just deeply disturbed and confused. Will there come a time that he begins to view sh in such a way? Once again love ur work :p
Oh yeah, I feel like SH's definitely going to be a bit more careful moving forward, especially because of the circumstances of this particular crash out.
The way part 1 ends is with SH thinking that he doesn't know what he did to deserve the punishment, and it's not because SH is guiltless and thinks he hasn't been doing anything wrong throughout the fic, but because every other time HJ has snapped at him, SH has known why.
For example, the first time HJ spanked him SH had deliberately pushed his luck and had a moment to prepare mentally for HJ's reaction (which he knew would be bad.) Or the second time, when HJ used his belt on him, SH had known that what he did beforehand would exact punishment which is why he ran to his room—he knew he'd done something wrong and knew to expect HJ's wrath.
But this time, SH has absolutely no fucking idea what he did to piss HJ off which contributed to the intensity of his fear. To SH, he didn't do anything he just asked and answered a question. Taking that into consideration, one can imagine that SH will be more apprehensive when he approaches HJ for a while if doing something like asking an 'innocent' question is enough to garner a reaction that violent.
On HJ's part, he just really needed to be alone but his frustration coupled with the conditioning fatherhood has imposed on him means that communicating the desire for space didn't even come to mind (on top of the fact that SH ran away crying the last time he said something adjacent to 'leave me alone.')
But yeah, when you have a child and they whine and cry and demand your attention in whatever manner, you can't exactly tell them to leave you alone because you're overwhelmed and you need time to yourself, you have to see to their needs and put your own aside for later. Of course as your child grows and their mental capacity grows with it you can communicate more effectively and teach them that you also need space sometimes and to respect your boundaries but HJ being HJ did not do all of that. Hence, SH being needy and clingy as hell and not knowing what boundaries are where HJ is concerned...and it's come to bite HJ in the ass (HJ ofc couldn't have anticipated that SH would end up like this though so...sorry buddy.)
All of the nonsense piled up and HJ just couldn't take SH demanding any more attention from him in that moment so everything came crashing down and once it had, he took the opportunity to teach SH a lesson about ignoring boundaries and that coercion is also a violation of one's boundaries because SH is a repeat offender when it comes to those things.
On that note, yeah I think SH is going to stay away from cake for the foreseeable future 😅
About your question... “Will there come a time that he begins to view sh in such a way?” ...I'm not sure what you're referring to. Could you clarify ?
And thank you for taking precious time out of your life to read my fucked up freak shit ♡ I really appreciate it from the bottom of my heart and I'm so sorry for this long ass response omg <\3
I may have missed a previous question about this, but when writing abmb Seonghwa were you thinking his character might have BPD?? The way he feels worthless unless he has his favorite person’s attention actively on him, and the second its’s gone it’s as if it was never there in the first place…..the way he’s started to test hongjoong, to see if he would get jealous or mad or act in a way that proves that hj does indeed love sh (as if everything he’s ever done for him his entire life isn’t proof enough)….idk i don’t have BPD myself but I’ve been very close to people who do and it’s very hard to watch them ruin their relationships with the people that love them the most. I also think labels are too shallow to truly explain the beautifully fucked up and complicated trauma bond you’ve woven between them, but I just wanted to tell you I #analyzed that hehe <3
You know what... that's a very interesting observation because I didn't have anything specific in mind for SH's character at all. The way I wrote this was just going with the flow while I projected a bit (maybe more than a bit)...on both HJ and SH...so I don't know what that could mean 😭💔
But yes, there's a lot of complex fuckery (pun intended) going on between them. Trying to unweave it all or finding the beginning and end of it or trying to define it would probably make my head explode.
I'm glad you're analyzing though, hehe. Means you're paying attention/invested 😌
Thank you for reading 💖
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