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Anonymous Coward · 2h
It’s also ironic that his son/experiment was the one chosen by Mary’s technique in modulo to grant permission to end cursed energy as a concept. Like all the cursed energy Kenjaku ever needed came much later 68 years later by the same boy who he tried to dismiss (Yuta) and his accumulated cursed energy over the years and his offspring. He’d be so sick to his stomach if he’s seen what Yuji has done with his beloved cursed energy. But I suppose there’s a part of him that just might be proud he made something soooo resilient ? Yuji is the pinnacle of his experimentation he just never accounted he could make someone so good who was born from evil.
Anonymous Coward · 6h
Maybe because I love Gojo so much but I feel like he needs a partner who would never grow tired of him forever.
Who would never feel intimated by his presence or power. Who would never feel inferior to him at any point in time even if he’s really good at everything he does. Someone that admires him, revers him but never feels the need to put him on an unattainable pedestal. Someone who would love his obnoxious, sometimes arrogant annoying ass despite wanting to rip his hair out sometimes. Someone who would let him be vulnerable without judgment or always expect him to clean up after them or take care of the hard tasks alone. Someone who would celebrate his wins and comfort him in his loses even though they are few and far between. It’s quite a thing that the only person I can think of in the entire verse who meets all those criteria happens to be Yuji. So unfortunately there was always only one shipping route for me despite the vast majority crucifying us at the stake for it. Perhaps if Yuji didn’t exist then….. actually it would be ME next in line.
Anonymous Coward · 6h
To anon who asked where Kenjaku got the cursed energy to start the culling game. He didn’t need that much cursed energy to start it, he needed the results of the culling game to generate enough cursed energy to trigger the merger between humanity and master Tengen.
Kenjaku’s entire issue was not having enough cursed energy to do that all by himself. So he went around for centuries striking deals and making binding vows to get as much people to take part in the culling game.
He obviously promised them whatever their hearts desired but he honestly didn’t care much about them getting it or not. The end game was that everyone who participated would become good and enhance the amount of cursed energy accumulated from the culling game.
You could say the most important thing he needed to kick start the culling game was Mahito’s technique. Which allowed him to rewrite the Brains of those he had marked for the game . Some who were asleep (like tsumiki who ended up being a vessel) and others who he awakened techniques in (like higuruma).
Anonymous Coward · 6h
whenever i get sad and miss yuuji i go look up tigers with their cubs. a tragedy he never got knocked up 💔
Anonymous Coward · 7h
I still think about when MoYuu took off his hood and went viral for his face card. My jaw dropped IRL.
And when Goyuu artists started drawing 29!Gojo & MoYuu together?!? The sexiest versions of Gojo & Yuuji getting together to maximise their joint slay...
2714 Goyuu is the most scandalous for sure, but 2983 is just so SO sexy. That's sexy widow MoYuu w his dearly beloved Sensei. His dear Sensei who left him his dreams. Smth about them feels so...self-assured. They know they are cherished by e/o. Plus Ik their bed chem goes CRAZYY
I saw someone say 2983 together look like an old photo of ur parents and I see the vision. Like omg that's Mama and Dada right there...
Anonymous Coward · 18h
Reasons why I started shipping 5U. It is almost three years since I got onto this ship.
For me the ship was pretty complimentary both aesthetic wise and narrative wise in the story. I started watching the series due to daddy Toji but later on I was hooked onto it due to bby Yuu.
1) 5 after defection incident came to conclusion that the only way one will not feel lonely if there are people who can be equal to his own strength. This is why he recruited students that can rival him in terms of strength. It was flawed mindset which changed after Yuu came to his life as he understood the concept of different strength and started to admire it.
2) Another thing I have seen by #those propaganda spreaders using Suksuk's convo with Kashi to prove something for their ship aka satisfaction equals to love. They seem to forget that suksuk was lying during that moment and at it is highlighted in 271, when he had convo with Midhito. It was never about satisfaction equals to love but moreso Suksuk extracting revenge from people who rejected his existence. This why Yuu says that he will accept SukSuk even if no one accepts him. This is further highlighted as Yuu is seen as Yorube for SukSuk. (Peak writing from GG)
So it is funny to me to see how desperate zebras are and how they constantly lie about everything. It is the biggest turn off for me for #thatship. They even tried to use this propaganda machine on 271 and this is why some people still believe that 5 had shit ton of regrets and died unhappy which directly contradicts the canon itself.
3) The hope and love 5 had for Yuu which is carried on Modu omg.
How you can not love this ship as the narrative itself pushes the entire premise. I will always love and support 5U forever.
Anonymous Coward · 1d
i love it when ppl draw/write gojo acting like a baby with yuuji. like yes sensei is yuuji's baby it makes sense.....
Anonymous Coward · 2d
gojo is a sap. he would 100% have yuuji and their baby as his phone lockscreen.
Anonymous Coward · 3d
https://x.com/sularehaii/status/2103216704553996427/photo/1
is this true? and is the initial draft line a correct tl?
(where did op's interpretation of the line the supposed draft was changed into even come from? i couldn't accurately remember the canon line "if you want to kill me, kill me. there's meaning in that too" and how the whole context was conveyed so i searched it up and this post (tho made by a zebra tii) popped up https://x.com/sugurugetowo/status/1389685341779550213 and the surrounding context of it and gto's words itself seem kinda far from his intent behind to come from (or doesn't really suggest that his intent behind comes from) bc "he doesn’t want gojo to end up like him" no?)
- Yes and yes
- I'm now going to rant for a bit so feel free to carry on with your day because otherwise you might be here a while...
First, credit to the second zebra you linked. I love and agree with their explanation of how, with the canonical line, Geto—who by that point in the story believes the "strongest" should rule over the "weak"—Geto is saying: If you have the resolve to kill me, then you are truly the strongest, and you have the right impose your will just as I am imposing mine. It's a twisted sign of respect (one which arguably only dehumanises Gojo further by emphasising his strength as his only valuable trait).
I view the original draft as an unrefined attempt to convey that same point. I certainly do not see it as a "missed opportunity to make Gojo and Geto's parting more heartbreaking" like the author of the article I linked above does, apparently too fixated on what he thinks the text should have been, what Gege should have done, to appreciate what it actually is, what Gege wanted to achieve.
The first zebra's claim that the original draft is important because it indicates that Geto "doesn't want Gojo to end up like him" and "knows what he's doing is wrong" not only ignores that it is a draft—ultimately discarded and so asinine to ascribe as much meaning as if it were in the final publication—but also Geto's core ideology.
Geto's entire plan is to eradicate all non-sorcerers. He devotes ten years to consuming the curses that taste like shit and vomit in its name; it is what he raises Mimiko and Nanako to become murderers for.
If Geto is willing to kill billions of innocent people, why would he suddenly care about the morality of killing one person (himself)? The idea that he draws the line at Gojo killing him to protect Gojo's soul, while the ambition he spends the next decade working towards is to commit a genocide of the entire human race, is narratively inconsistent.
Moreover, "Just be careful to not kill anyone besides me" reads as a piss take when you realise that it is an impossible condition. Gojo's cursed technique is Limitless and Infinity; his ultimate move (the bitter fruit of his ascension as "the strongest", and specifically the one he impulsively makes the hand motion for in that scene) is Hollow Purple—an imaginary mass that erases everything in its path. There is no "surgical" way for Gojo to kill only Geto in that dense Shinjuku crowd, even if he were to stick only to Blue and Red. That Gojo Satoru not only fights best alone, but is actively hindered by company is precisely what Kenjaku exploits in Shibuya! Geto's request forces Gojo into an impossible dilemma: either devalue the lives around them just as Geto does, or beat Geto to death without using his powers. It's a demand that only makes sense if Geto sees Gojo as a weapon, not a person.
And don't forget that, seconds before, Geto responds to Gojo's "Killing all non-sorcerers to make a world of only sorcerers?! That's impossible!!" by assuming Gojo means it's logistically impossible: "You could do it... Satoru. You're trying to convince me that it's impossible when you yourself could do it. Are you the strongest because you're Gojo Satoru? Or are you Gojo Satoru because you're the strongest?"
Geto speaks as though Gojo couldn't possibly oppose his ideal for a reason like morality. When he says, "If I could be you... wouldn't my impossible ideal become possible?" Geto acknowledges a version of Gojo Satoru whose soul is tainted, reducing him to raw power and dehumanising him in the process. This is why I'm utterly unconvinced by the claim that he wanted to protect Gojo's goodness. I see it as yet another case of fans projecting onto Geto the image of the tragic, secretly selfless martyr they want him to be, as opposed to the supremacist cult leader he actually is.
I know that Geto claims that "This is the life I've chosen. All I can do now is give it all I've got." And in 0, he says, "It's just that in a world like this, I can't laugh from my heart at all." Geto (wants to) believe that he was pushed down this bloody path by the cruelty of the world, his hatred of non-sorcerers an inevitable conclusion.
But are those really the only options available to him? And while the narrative offers Geto sympathy—showing us first-hand the weight of his trauma and his isolation and despair, his genuine attachment to people like his friends and the members of his cult, whom he calls his "family"—it does not offer absolution.
Yuki's response to Geto's admission in ch. 77 that he's started to doubt whether non-sorcerers are worth fighting for are a perfect example of this: "Looking down on non-sorcerers... resisting that feeling... those are just possibilities you've thought of. Whatever your true feeling is... you still have to decide." She explicitly rejects his fatalistic framing, reminds him that he has agency. He just hasn't chosen to exercise it yet. When he massacres Mimiko and Nanako's village, Geto finally makes his choice.
The tragic irony of Geto lies specifically in the choices he made. The narrative presents us a number of people who suffered similarly, or worse, and chose differently—Yuuji is the most obvious foil to Geto, but there's also Yuuta, Maki, Mechamaru... See also this thread I wrote back in February about why Higuruma could be saved by Yuuji where Gojo could not save Geto, despite Higuruma and Geto ostensibly being similar in how they are radicalised by confrontation with systemic injustice and their own powerlessness to do anything about it.
Once again, I disagree that Gege discarding the original draft was "a missed opportunity to make Gojo and Geto's parting more heartbreaking". If taken as Geto acknowledging he might be wrong but wanting to protect Gojo anyway, it undermines not only his role as a villain (however sympathetic) who chose to become a mass murderer, but broader narrative themes about human agency, the choices we believe are available to us as a result of all we've experienced.
Geto wasn't trying to protect Gojo's morality; he was acknowledging Gojo's strength while accepting that his own warped ideology would mean his death if he couldn't make his bite match his bark. The final version of the line—"There's meaning in that too"—does a far better job at reinforcing this, and I'm glad Gege went with it.