BellLocke = Micah/Jenny
VanderLocke = Dutch/Jenny
BuckLocke = Henry/Jenny
BalLocke = Charlotte/Jenny
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do u think everyone insults micah in their native languages so he dont understand it
Definitely!! Rainer knows German very fluently because of his parents who traveled straight from Germany, Josue knows Spanish fluently (and ofc so does Jenny), Josiah speaks some Hindi, but barely. Thorn knows a lot of Swedish but can be thrown off a bit. Curly and Grant both know Irish fluently. Would also be mad like Sean that they don't pronounce Colm's name right. Jailbird knows German as well. And then I have an unnamed Welsh guy who speaks Welsh fluently too.
On a sidenote, Josue would try to insult Jenny in Spanish and then be shocked she's fluent in it, but he would have a hard time understanding her thick Chilean accent.
What made you yume Charlie?
Honestly I have no idea I just think he's neat
What’s your favorite Pokémon
Scrafty!! Jolteon and Mew are close contenders
do the 5 fun/random facts of all characters !!
Jenny Kirk:
1. Bleaches her hair, her natural hair color is brown.
2. Was only taught how to use a gun by Micah, prior to that, she only ever used a bow and arrow for hunting, and this is why she prefers the bow. She's insanely skilled with it. While hunting game with her brothers and father in the past, her brothers would have rifles.
3. She often stands in Micah's blind spot to fill it in for him when he's in camp and they're catching up, it makes him feel safer, as he is an insanely paranoid person and not close with his goons at all. She on the other hand, becomes very close to many of them since she stays in camp and manages everything. She could easily form a coo and overthrow him if she wanted to, but just wouldn't.
4. Outside of the low honor ending, she was only ever wanted alive for questioning, as the public knew she was deeply associated with Micah, but had no proof she ever committed any crimes, nor knew if she was an unwilling hostage or not. Despite this, her wanted poster still names her "Jenny Bell" as an alias.
5. She initially scolds and treats her men like annoying teenage boys she's raising, which is ironic because once her son is an actual teenager, she's so insanely distant from him (detachment issues caused by Rainer and Daisy's deaths, her getting used to not becoming attached to the goons that do join later as she knows many will die, and the distance caused by being apart from IV for so long), that he doesn't even get that treatment, he's treated more like she should have been treating the goons- more blunt and cold and distant.
Micah Bell the Fourth / Four / IV:
1. Micah raises IV via being very neglectful and distant. He plans to run with him one day, but has little interest in him until he can hold a gun, meaning until he's around 15, he's Jenny's problem. He thinks that being too close to him will make him soft.
2. IV grows up to be a lot more skittish, but still very narcissistic and sadistic, too.
3. He has an Oedipus complex.
4. His mother's over-correction (completely refusing to talk about Micah with him to the point of lashing out when he tries to pry) causes IV to look into Micah more himself. Due to his only sources being newspaper clippings and word of mouth from people in the areas of his reign of terror, his idea of Micah becomes very exaggerated and often wrong. The more IV obsessively looks into Micah, the more he wants to become [his idea of] him.
5. He doesn't remember a lot from his time in Hagen, but his most vivid memories are him being comforted and coddled by his mother, something he misses and no longer gets to experience anymore.
Daisy Bell:
1. Micah raised Daisy with the opposite mindset of how he'd go about raising IV, he is extremely attached to her, overprotective, and spends a lot of time with her when he is in camp.
2. Micah is more directly the cause of her death as he was an asymptomatic carrier in the sickness arc, and being constantly around her caused him to give her the illness.
3. Had she grown, she would have turned out a lot more like Micah with her ideals and brutality. Basically the opposite of IV.
4. Although Micah completely refuses to talk about it / admit he's upset with her death (he acts like he's unbothered, which upsets Jenny), he becomes a lot more aggressive, irritable, and brutal for a while, directly resulting in him murdering that little girl that causes Cleet to flee.
5. Because of her growing responsibilities and needing to deal with soothing Micah when he is in camp, Jenny hardly ever gets to grieve over Daisy herself. She gets sick soon after and was going to let it kill her, but Micah forces her to go get treated by Henry when he realizes she's ill.
Henry Buck:
1. Henry was completely based off of Jayfeather. I have no idea how obvious this is atp.
2. His real name is oddly Russian, Mikhail Valentine, despite being of middle eastern origin in his family line.
3. He used to be a real doctor in Saint Denis, but had his position sabotaged when he was attempting to expose corruption. He then became wanted as he had to steal to get by- he was caught on a farmer's property, got in a knife fight, and accidentally killed the guy. This is also where he got his chest scar from. Micah hires him because the idea of having a trained doctor in camp in case something goes wrong is comforting, although they almost immediately begin to hate each other and only tolerate each other's presence.
4. Micah only gives him a Glasgow carving rather than killing him later as a way to punish Jenny more directly- Henry's life is in her hands now, so it'll hurt more if she can't treat him or he dies of infection.
5. He cannot shoot a gun to save his life. He gets skittish just holding one, and he can barely use his knife either. Despite only having the one death on his hands- which wasn't even intended to end the person's life -he thinks he's just as bad as everyone else on this mountain.
Rainer Fetting:
1. Rainer was adopted by Germans as a baby, but has Native American blood from an unknown tribe. The details about how all this went down are unknown.
2. Despite being an adopted baby, his parents are insanely absent, he basically raised himself, and learned how to steal in order to feed himself, which eventually grew into kleptomania. He grew up around Van Horn, and due to raising himself, he cannot write or read.
3. He is initiated into the Bell gang after looting Micah's guns. Micah eventually corners him but is more impressed than mad, and realizes he can use his thievery skills, as well as Rainer's excitable / people-pleasing attitude to manipulate him.
4. Jenny lashes out at Micah for allowing a teenager into the gang, and then gives Rainer in-camp chores as assignments in order to protect him before he eventually replaces her as Henry's medical assistant full on. His death is a result of Micah taking him out of camp while Henry and Jenny weren't around to stop them.
5. Although he respects Micah, he thinks Henry and Jenny should run away together and take him with them, and sees them more as his adopted parents than his actual previous adopted parents. While bleeding out, he's only grateful for Micah giving him the chance so that he could meet them.
Bonus bc I love him: After Henry fails to save his life, he goes to burry him some place nice himself, as he knows the goons would just burn his body. He returns and breaks down, the only time you ever see Henry cry.
Zachary Jennings / Mouse:
1. Unlike most of the goons who are brought on out of desperation for money and a meal at the end of the day, Mouse is actually well off and has a supportive family. He just admires Micah and is bored + wants his skills to be acknowledged and noticed.
2. Mouse lost his mother when he was a tot, and only grew up around men (his father and several brothers), which partially explains his misogynistic ideology. Along with how bad it was in society at the time.
3. Mouse eventually comes to respect Jenny more than he does Micah (despite all of the shit he gave her about refusing to want to follow her orders and disliking her presence in camp), however he still only sees her as "a bizarre exception". He's learned nothing.
4. He has a phobia of cats, and avoids the medical den since it's where Ocelot primarily lives.
5. He is aroace. He's never kissed anyone and finds relationships and sex absolutely disgusting. He is fully incapable of sexual or romantic attraction.
Josiah Rudabaugh:
1. He used to be an O'Driscoll with his brother, Webb. Webb died during Colm's run.
2. He almost never talks, usually using little grunts or shrugs in place of full on replies if he can. When he does talk, he uses as little words as possible. Just not a very social guy. He is eerily calm in every situation. Very monotoned. The only time he actually raises his voice is when a goon disrespects whoever his current leader is (including Jenny, who he respects way more than Micah).
3. He's mainly skilled as a sniper, and I consider him to be the sniper at the beginning of American Venom, meaning he does die in the neutral and low honor endings.
4. He used to be a lot more brutal while running with Colm.
5. Jenny chose him to have a fling with because she knew he'd never mention it to anyone, nor would he do anything "out of line" in their sessions.
I love you…
I get the feeling you are not my wife
Outside of your characters what other ships do you like? :o
VanderMorgan is my top RDR ship, VanderBell is okay, but I only like it as a one sided thing (like Micah crushing on Dutch and Dutch knows it and uses it against him + still fucks him, but pretty much only hates Micah in reality.. half pining, half hateship).
Bill/Kieran is good, I wanna say I like Johnigail but I mostly just like them as separate characters and think she can do 100x better than his dumb, smelly ass. BellLocke outside of my version of her can technically count I suppose? Like I honestly do not care for anyone else's version of Jenny, but usually thats a good sign the person who pairs them is chill at the very least. RheaDom, Curlya, Petrigrof. Idk, that might be about it, I've never been much of a shipper, but I do like aspects of these pairings.
I feel the need to explain this one specifically esp cos it's probably my absolute favorite canon/canon, but I like Curlya more as an idea prior to her assault or more as a.. they'd never actually be together thing, but there was some crushing, if that makes sense? I like to imagine even if Curly liked her, he respectfully kept it professional or only showed it subtly. I still wanna murder Curly for his lack of involvement and him siding with / trusting Jimmy to "take care of it" literally right after Anya confessed to him, when he could have no idea of knowing what Jimmy meant by that.
Curly, when I get you... but alas, I can see some fun and comforting alternate ways it could have gone. Ig I'm biased in the sense I like to imagine a world where he DID stand up for her and became a comfort for her throughout the pregnancy, because admittedly when I first played I did not fully catch / grasp the ending convo with Jimmy and Curly and took Curly as like, not getting it? and moreso being a dumb man who doesn't know how to handle the situation but DID care, but since replays I've realized he doesn't just do that, but straight up chooses the rapist over her like way more blatantly than I initially took in- to the point where said rapist is literally implying he could either get rid of her or all of them to save Curly's reputation (I know, I know, it's really obvious, but I'm going to express I was constantly drunk off my ass / abusing other substances around the time MWing was first popular so I was definitely both not taking in things very well or remembering them lol).
On top of that, because of my perception of how I viewed them at the time, it became a comfort pairing for me (again more talking "alternative, what could have been" routes here too), because Anya is someone I very very deeply relate to both in our traumas (especially with the use of substances within / around the assaults), and then also having to be coworkers with the rapist and when coming out about the assaults to managers I felt were there for me... nothing happening, almost seemingly to protect the rapist while throwing bare minimum pity towards me. Like I projected a lot onto this pairing, and it's sort of nuanced, but I do understand their canon dynamic atp and that's not exactly, relevant to how I pair them. I hope this makes sense lol.
Ughh, I hate him. And I love him as a character, too, but I admit my first perception of him plays a role in the way I pair them specifically. After those convos though, he can go and fuck himself for all I care.
Thing's I've vaguelyyy shipped before are RevengeShipping (Ashfur/Scourge), Bill/Zoey (L4D), Louick (L4D), Nellis (L4D), and Sly/Bentley (Sly Cooper).
I also really liked Huddy (House/Cuddy) until LITERALLY the episode is happened and they took the day off and then I couldn't stand it. Them pining was 1000x better than them as a couple.
There's other things I'm sure I fw / have paired in the past but eh, relevant to rn, these are probably my bigger interests.
Did you get permission to copy moons work without credit
Yes, I asked her directly. Twice.
do you like blue cheese
No, I'm more of a ranch kind of girl.
how does jenny deals with the pregnancies and the hormones?
IV was really hard for her because she was often by herself, though Charlotte and Pearson would help her out while she was carrying. I imagine when her water broke, she was with Charlotte so she helped Jenny through the process. She's pretty devastated when she realizes she's carrying IV, too, as she was trying to distance from Micah atp and didn't want to be a mother, and now she feels conflicted and trapped and unsure of what to do, especially because she only realizes once they're in Beaver Hollow and everything is going to shit. She continues to have Pearson and Charlotte help her raise IV until Micah shows back up once day and acts very sweet to sort of push his way back into her life and get on her good side.
Daisy was a less stressful carry for her since she knew a little more what to expect and actually had Micah around, who would visit her every few days and often stay the night with her. Comfort her and all, she was a lot more excited to have Daisy, but she fainted during the process. Micah cleaned them up and watched over Jenny until she woke up again.
Hormonally, idk, with IV, she's very like mellow and just kind of disassociated a lot of the time, there's so much going on to process for her that she can't really think straight until she gets away from the gang and Micah. Dutch and Javier were trying to convince her to stay and that the gang would have helped take care of them, but we know that's not, entirely true. I do think Javier meant well though. He was one of Jenny's closest friends in the gang.
Carrying Daisy, now not as stressed, she can probably be kinda snappy at times, but is overall just really excited and happy that Micah seems to be sweeter now. Again it's mostly just to get back on her good side, he's playing it up a bit, but he does also enjoy holding her and thinking about actually seeing his offspring right out the womb this time.
how is the relationship of feather and henry? and feather and mouse?
Henry sees Rainer/Feather like something between a little brother first and a son later. Feather sees him, Jenny, and Micah as parents (although with Micah it's more in the sense of "you're my God mom's husband so by default, you're my other dad too), and he treats IV like a little brother. Feather is extremely happy he got to meet them because he's never really had family before (it's how he ended up here at 15, after getting in trouble for robberies to get himself by), so when he's shot and being ridden back to camp (on the back of Baylock), he even thanks Micah for letting him join. Somehow, despite him not really lasting that long, it was worth it to finally feel that kind of warmth for once.
Feather actually respects Micah a lot, although at the same time he wants nothing more than for Henry and Jenny to run away together and take him with them to be adopted. He knows Henry really likes her and tries to encourage them to be a thing.
He looks up to Micah in some way, but also knows he's not exactly the best partner either and that the situation here is messy..
Micah on the other hand doesn't care for Feather (especially because by the end of it he has that family bond with Henry and Jenny, and likes Henry more). Feather was always just a tool to him.. admired the fact he was able to pickpocket his gun so effortlessly when they met in Van Horn, but he just wanted him around for those thievery skills. He drops him off by the med den with a smirk knowing he's beyond saving and that it's going to hurt the two. Especially Henry.
Feather likes Mouse.. he thinks he's funny. Kinda has a similar thing going on like with Micah where he knows those two are kinda terrible but he doesn't exactly take them seriously either and sees something in them that he respects, despite Feather otherwise being a good kid you wouldn't really expect to tolerate those kinds of people.
Mouse finds Feather annoying though, but I think he'd become endeared towards him by the end of his life and feel upset that he's killed, too. Mouse p much starts off hating just about everyone except Micah and Warren, and grows to miraculously respect Jenny more by the end of it. Despite all the shit he's given her. I don't think he ever really cares for Henry, though. Henry's a bit too spicy for him to ever bond towards. Even if Mouse deserves it.
Little TL breakdown.. Rainer joins after impressing Micah in Van Horn by snatching his run and running off, Jenny snaps at Micah for letting a kid join, then proceeds to attempt to protect him by assigning him to camp chores rather than letting him go out on patrols. Eventually, Rainer becomes a medical assistant as Jenny's responsibilities and authority is growing a lot and she no longer needs the distraction of being Henry's assistant herself, tho the three work together in the medical den for a little while before she resigns that responsibility while Rainer is learning the ropes, or whenever they need an extra set of hands, she'll continue to assist if she's not busy with something else.
Micah eventually chooses Rainer to help him with a score, knowing Jenny wouldn't like this, so it's while both her and Henry weren't paying attention to where he was. It wasn't Micah's plan for him to get shot exactly, but alas. He's just not really upset about it either. And then the medical den and Hagen itself grows that much more quiet and empty. He brought a little spark of enthusiasm to a cold and dark place. It's the only scene where you ever see Henry cry. He attempted to save Rainer, and then goes out to bury him somewhere proper before anyone else could come along and snatch his body to burn. Comes back and breaks down into Jenny's arms.
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