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I’ve told my mom about tsgel, that’s how obsessed I am 🫡
what will you do if she decides she wants to read it 😭
You’re so surprised by the love for tsgel which is crazy to me because this fic just spins in my mind like a rotisserie chicken
i think a big part of my confusion stems from the fact that the majority of scenes we've been looking forward to writing and posting havent hit yet. so as we're writing we're like, looking forward to stuff that's going to happen eventually, and we have that kind of in our minds as the exciting and engaging part.
You kinda insinuated we will see prized poodle Jisung
i was mostly trying to figure out anon's question tbh
Sooo... Do we get to see Jisung just kneeling in Hj room with Felix and Jeongin just hanging around?
you mean like, the omegas having a tea date and jisung is chilling on the floor next to hyunjin's chair like a prized poodle? 😭
How do you two start paragraphs without it being boring ? I recently posted a fic and I really did try to use your fics as an inspo for what I would like to write one day but something I noticed is that all my sentences usually start with the Character's name or "He (did action)" that made it look very boring. How do you keep making your writing action, dialog, perspective and just thibgs like that interesting and variable that you aren't reusing words ?
I hope this made sense.. loved the new chapter. Might drop an ask about that soon because it was so great. Thank you !
it does make sense! and you actually kind of answered your own question. this is something i'm going to touch on when i eventually get to the patreon post about settling down to actually write, but as a rule, we deliberately set out to not have two consecutive sentences start with the same word, barring deliberate repetition for emphasis. same rule for the start of consecutive paragraphs.
i think it can feel automatic and intuitive to start sentences with a subject and then follow with the action. but you're right that it can make your writing feel flat. there is a rhythm to reading something, and if the sentences are all very similar, it all blends together.
the way you fix this isn't to change what is happening in your story, but to learn how to rearrange sentences to give them variety. i will use a section from chapter 1 of tsgel as an example. this is what it could have read like if we'd allowed every sentence to follow that basic structure:
"Chan had travelled a good deal as the Intergalactic Ambassador for Selene I, but he’d never been out to this particular system before, and certainly not to this planet. He’d never felt such pressure to appear appealing and put together as he did today, not even on his diplomatic missions. His cousin Minho would gleefully call it the nerves of nuptials.
He tried futilely not to sweat, nor cringe every time they passed an open window, of which there were many. He worked, also, to not squint around like an idiot. He'd been on glaringly sunny planets before; he’d been to Halcyon, and discovered upon arrival they had two suns, which just seemed absurd to him."
the writing above isn't bad, but it does feel flat, because even though the sentences vary in length and the information they're conveying, they follow a very similar rhythmic beat. so it feels repetitive.
compare this now to what was actually put into the chapter:
"As the Intergalactic Ambassador for Selene I, Chan had travelled a good deal, but he’d never been out to this particular system before, and certainly not to this planet. Even on his diplomatic missions, he’d never felt such pressure to appear appealing and put together as he did today. The nerves of nuptials, his cousin Minho would say gleefully.
So he tried not to sweat, nor cringe every time they passed an open window, of which there were many. He worked, also, to not squint around like an idiot. It was not his first time being on such a glaringly sunny planet; he’d been to Halcyon, and discovered upon arrival they had two suns, which just seemed absurd to him."
you can see that in many cases, all that we did was simply put the second half of the sentence first. this doesn't always work and it isn't good to do it with every sentence; you can and should sometimes start a sentence with a name or a pronoun. it's just one trick of many to pull out of the arsenal in the quest to vary your writing. sometimes you will have to sit and think about how to rephrase a sentence utterly. but there's no sentence that can't be redone. i really don't think of the "no repetition" thing as an unbreakable rule, but if at all possible, we do try to abide by it.
will we ever revisit/address the everyone lying to jeongin thing again? i feel like jeongin and seungmin were way too forgiving about it 😭 jeongin’s anger did not (outwardly) last nearly as long as it would have if i were in his shoes 😭 i know it’s mentioned that he cant bring himself to even feel anger and it’s mostly pity, but damn personally i would’ve been sooo petty about the whole thing
the thing is, the person jeongin would be most angry at in this scenario is chan. and chan is, as far as jeongin knows, dead. it seems counterproductive and pointless to sit around seething with anger at someone who isn't even alive anymore.
jeongin is practical. minho is his husband, and jeongin doesnt want to spend his life angry or resentful at his husband. sometimes you have to let things go. he doesnt agree with minho's choice but he does understand his reasonings as well as the futility of fighting against royal duty.
felix as well is in a similar boat to minho, but even more powerless, as a selenean omega. jeongin would be, at most, irked at felix anyway, but his lack of options combined with the loss of his mate means jeongin just can't work up any upset in felix's direction.
and changbin isn't even on jeongin's radar to be mad at. he's a cavalier, of course he was bound to his charge's silence.
so basically jeongin has just accepted it and moved on for the sake of his own peace and happiness and because there's no point being apocalyptically angry at a dead dude. but don't worry, once chan comes back and is no longer dead, jeongin allows himself to be a little petty about it all.
TSGEL HYVNSVNG ??? (sorry it’s me again lmao) https://x.com/konsorusparty/status/2083557861188137403/video/1
OOOOOOO SCREE SCREE SCREE
Hihi! Different anon here… I got another follow up question for your question,
"i have a few clarifying questions for you though. what do you mean when you say "carried away"? like how do we know when to stop planning and start writing, or at what level of detail do we stop at, or something else?"
For me I wonder a lot about the second part, about what level of detail do you stop at, but I also have another issue! How are you guys so well at showing instead of telling?! I feel like anytime I write details, especially in heavier parts, I just end up telling it all without showing. It just all feels very textbook, if that makes sense?
Thank you for sharing your writing wisdom with us!!! <3
nods nods i will note all this down to add into future posts
that said i am kind of happy to chat 1 on 1 in dms like i said, it might be easier for me personally to kind of.... address things in bits and pieces? i know y'all might be shy but we're not actually scary 🧍 so feel free to come yonder
ooooooh im looking forward to the post on patreon!
"i have a few clarifying questions for you though. what do you mean when you say "carried away"? like how do we know when to stop planning and start writing, or at what level of detail do we stop at, or something else?"
i think the first one, or the second one too! both questions r good (sob) but like first you have a general layout, then sections of story according to the chapters i think?
but then if a fic is plot heavy, and u dont plan every little detail but then u require some plot point to have happened for the sstory to work ahead in the future (is this making sense?) then how would that work..
i guess im asking that how much do you guys plan the little details, and how do get about actually turning it into a proper fic.
i think my problem is that i cant get myself to write, i keep mood boarding, jotting down notes and deciding chapter names and fic title, but im not writing...
ooooooo okay. i'm working on the post rn, and it's only the second stage of things, so i think your questions will be mostly answered in the next post, the one where we actually address outlining.
that said, do you have discord? i am feeling chatty, so if you want, you can dm me on twt ur discord id and we can chat a bit about the process of things
I’m jealous of those that are allowed to the gc… getting FOMO🧍♀️
it might help to shift your thinking a bit, because the gc isn't some specially treated elite club, it's just our friend group 😭 like sorry but we do have friends!!
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