I'm sry I never meant your decision was wrong. I honestly didn't discuss about it much with anybody so i ranted that much but my intent was not to make u feel guilty. I get ur feelings and how you felt guilty about your parasocialism because I was one of the persons who looked at him highly and took inspiration from. I started writing fanfics cuz of mahae, enjoyed taking pics of sky and it's sad to see things like this. It's just sad to abandon and honestly difficult too. but it's better we focus on building ourselves and as selfish as it sounds, I still like where I am because of him. although I did start with mahae I have also grown to write other things too so i try not to make everything about him. I don't care about the rest of him maybe I'll just give a listen to his songs when he releases. We must let it go. but this feeling is for everybody in nct/or any celebrity as that matter cuz unfortunately nobody came as close to him :(( I'm disheartened that I can't look at the things with same amount of joy. but it's okay. Idc if people think I'm overreacting, maybe it's little embarrassing but yeah

For me, it would make sense that the apology is made by the whole team. Because I think it was a team mistake. If I pay people to do things for me because I am too busy, I will just trust the whole team to do things for me. I am actually still pissed that nobody in the room pointed it out. Not the camera man, not the manager, not the host, and not even the stylist. Because no, I do not think Mark is racist. I do not think anyone in the UpperRoom is racist. And no, I do not want him to apologize alone on this because it was not solely his mistake.

i feel sorry that u keep getting dragged into this :( everyone is allowed to make their own choice so i do not get why u continue to get dragged. as someone who hasnt fully made up their mind yet, ive also been noticing that a lot of these revos seem like theyre coming from 1 person who lowkey seems like a cloutchaser, so maybe it isnt worth posting? i totally get why you stepped away but i wish everyone could just give grace whether people choose to leave or wait and see. it wasnt an easy choice for anyone

the previous "markf" here. I understand that "symbol" represents an idea. it's just that it was clearly mentioned that "upon recognition/realisation it was removed". It only means that he didn't know before. things just don't add up, okay? Had he been real racist, why would he even apologise? saying exactly the words "do not condone or any sort of discrimination" nobody actually apologised like that in k-pop actually, most of them don't even apologise in the first place. I'm not at all saying we must glaze him cuz it's lesser than bare minimum and he should have come out with a more authentic apology than a statement that disappears after 24hrs. and I said he needn't apologise cuz he's not associated to nct anymore and he could just be like it doesn't matter. he could have been okay with people thinking he's a racist. but he took action in less than three hours, no? Just like nobody forced him to wear the shirt, nobody forced him to apologise either. Kfans wouldn't even cancel him even if said a black person is his slave it wouldn't affect his career at all. listen, I'm not at all defending him and I'm deeply upset too but I regard it as a stupid ignorant mistake but not a moral failure to CANCEL him. and idk... Actually I was more mad at him when he collabed with mc Donalds than this. Cuz his action has a real consequence. I only supported him later cuz of the benefit of doubt that korea doesn't fund israel. and he collabed with un too. Sigh. But wearing a confederate flag doesn't have a /real/ consequence... Idk like it existed before now it doesn't have the significance. Mcd boycott was also very prevelant cuz many idols got in trouble for buying starbucks (including nct collaboration) and YET he went on with it. No way he didn't know. But this shirt incident... I do believe he didn't know. it's difficult to remember everything you studied (if that was even taught) Yes he is associated to his intl fans but do they ever talk about it?? no. He's probably more aware of korean history and culture than American by now. he was 12 fgs 😭. I won't defend him but i do think it's a bit unfair. Idt many would have the same reaction if he was in nct. It's just easier to hate him now because they don't have to drop the rest of the group cuz they are "guilty by association" or hate him in a place where he appears over and over. See I'm not defending him. As a celebrity you should be aware. You shouldn't wear smth without knowing what it means. You should also be brave enough to offer a better apology. But what bothers me is that fandom going at two sides where people either blame markfs and question their moral compass to still stan him and the other side where people still coddle him like a child. neither is good. confederate flag I researched about it, in south America it's also used as a symbol of country music. And even in certain parts of Europe. this doesn't make the shirt less controversial but it sure does guarantee the availability of the shirt in the market as a fashion item. So he could have gotten it randomly and not bcs he was helping the us govt lol. A lot of these things are taken wayyy out of proportion so like it's just more complicated and not enough for me to cancel him. but i do not trust him ofc, especially after the mcd incident only. cuz it was an individual project, you could have just said I'm too busy/lazy for this but nah. you decided to get that paycheck. for me to believe him again tho, he should only say it openly that he is a liberal atp. but that's for every other celebrity. Idk why Mark's the only one targeted. That's all. I mean it in a nice way only.. despite this I do understand the sentiments who have been hurt i do not keep him above the victims at all.