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a curious little mouse · 1mo

hi hi ^_^ i'd love to hear ur thoughts on dr chapter 5 after u play it! u always write so thoughtfully and nice, so i get happy when i read dr character analyses and tidbits from u. hope u have fun!

I've hesitated to answer just 'cuz it's sooo broad, what can be said, but I meant to come back and at least try a little overview~~

This chapter... scrumptious... the church chapters were so Susie-focused, there were honestly a lot of moments I was rather disengaged or a bit bored >>;; though of course I liked what we saw of Ralsei, the overall environment, music, enemy designs were stimulating enough to fill in the gap of my attentions. I am uniquely immune to "funny old man shares wisdom to young girl" due to my tastes... but then Jack would show up and I'd go YAAAY JAAAACK!!! and then Ralsei would sob.

Ch. 5 felt soooo opposite in many ways!! I LOVED what Flowery exposed in Ralsei, all the provoking and poking of his insecurities, guarded reality, WOO!!! I got what I wanted most of all as well: Ralsei Intuitively Knowing he needs to hide from Asgore, because Asgore will freak out if he sees Asriel wandering around. Noelle had the cloak of this being a "dream", but Asgore didn't! Asgore had preestablished knowledge of this world, and an awareness that what he was seeing was 'real' and consequential. I love that he had a level of perception high enough to look at Ralsei and feel unable to distinguish him as a Lightner or a Darkner... heehoo!!!

I guess overall the music & rando enemies were less interesting to me ? BUT the Netskie kind of made up for this... I also, like that, their names are anagrams of Kitsune... lol. anagrams eh...

I really liked Aqua & Seth, a fun and cute duo (: of course they reminded me of perhaps a younger Kris + Asriel playing around... but they also reminded me that Toby likes Ran from Touhou, and made me wonder if her dynamic with Chen is alluring... something I've wondered idly in the past! Well, it's a bit sexy to think about, isn't it? I like when a servile girl has an underling, who she commands, but whomst is a useless rat. Nobody is a real 'master' in this dynamic, everyone's kind of under a thumb and helpless... oneeloli is so rare and special! It makes me imagine, in some world, can Kris and Asriel fantasize such a thing? [stares wistfully over the misty sky] so beautiful...

One of my favorite moments... was when Aqua is asked who she likes better, between the Fuck Gang or Seth, and Seth freaaaaaks out and won't let Aqua answer that question, too scared of the answer <3 and then... later... Ralsei does the exact same thing when Kris is asked that question ... <3 I love that he couldn't handle any confirmation or rejection... so immature, so pathetic!! You're this submissive, but you can't handle rejection?! HAH!!! [pointing and laughing at Ralsei] What Kris wants is so important to you, unless it disincludes you, huh? It's almost like you're not completely selfless and servile... hehe...! There are just some things you couldn't go on living after knowing, huh? You can't pretend to be selfless forever, I know you have WANTS!!!!!

Another fav moment, RALSEI WEARS MAKEUP CONFIRMED?????? Why would this be confirmed... jaw on the floor... also, the onsen scene starting, I felt like I was witnessing a pornographic film unfold suddenly. Terrifying. Well, I look forward to what the eastern fandom may draw regarding, this. But seriously... the pink around Ralsei's eyes confirmed to merely be makeup that washes off, WTF!!! HOW DO YOU HAVE MAKEUP!!! THAT DOESN'T WORK WITH YOUR BULLSHIT 'NARRATIVE' OF BEING A DESOLATE NOBODY WITH NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but it works with MY narrative of Ralsei somehow painting color on himself to disguise his portrait as a darkner. I'll bet dollars to donuts his horns are painted pink with polish =.= "vanilla nerd, strawberry nerd" as Susie says... I know you secretly have white horns like mommy and daddy...

Really really scared by the Love Dojo starting to talk about foursomes guys.... and even numbers being balanced.... really scared guys. Why would it say that. Dream Holiday is rumbling just over the mountain... [running in high heels on rocky terrain in the opposite direction]

I hope Ralsei in the end ripped Flowery's roots up, lol.... this golden flower... my long-standing enemy... Kris's favorite flower.... die die die die die die!!! I'M KRIS'S FAVORITE.. RHgklsdfgjf;!!

omg but I admit, completely checked out for Blue/Yellow... ugely... bring back the oneeloli...

there is SO much omg I'll forget everything ever.

But of course Weird Route ruled!!!!!!!!!!!!! EPIC... I KNEW NOELLE WOULD NOT STAY A 'VICTIM' FOR LONG AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She was awesome!! I felt gobsmacked by the contrast between Susie holding Noelle above the water and wading shallowly, while Noelle and Kris fully submerged...? This felt parallel to Susie & Kris dipping their feet in the onsen, while Kris & Ralsei submerge fully....? But it's one of those things that is so intentional, yet opaque to me. It feels sort of like a dream. This concept of "shallowness"... I guess in a way, it felt surprisingly unbrazenly cruel to cast this contrast upon Susie/Noelle? I suppose my soft reservation about Susie/Noelle, has been that it may be too precious, or beyond meaningful deconstruction.... but I felt like the Weird Route kind of took it apart at the seams, for me... made it feel, so surface-level, like a compromise with 'reality' for Noelle...

I'm not against it or anything like that, merely personally not piqued by it. I don't seek to disprove or unspool it at all, but I also didn't foresee canon handing me so much fodder to do so. I guess it was validating for me?! I hold the belief that Susie just.... doesn't possess the depth or intensity to truly satisfy and excite Noelle, a true Masochist. At the end of the day, Susie has never wanted to hurt anybody. She's just a lonely, defensive little girl who accepted being painted as something mean & scary, by her surroundings. But if she's not a Sadist, how is she supposed to satisfy a Masochist's needs? Is it enough to joke about a severed hand and carry a girl above water?

Seeing Noelle genuinely manic... enthralled, wild with desire, desperate to escape herself, I was so relieved Kris could do this for her. It's like seeing an animal get the stimulation it needs... not a block of ice filled with fish to lick, but a leaping body to throw down and bite.

But in a way I worry it's almost cruel or unfair to feel that sort of thing ?! but I can't complain either...

Quite SHOCKING reveal that Noelle, growing up, felt that Kris may have merely been "going along with what she wanted" for various interactions, suchas voting eachother as King and Queen ? and she relates this suspicion to something that happened between others, who remain unnamed .... ? implies Noelle spectated a situation where someone lead someone else on, merely because it was what the other person wanted. I would have to assume this relates to either parents, or siblings... but well, we know Asriel had various, conflicting unsent love letters to Catty and Dess, as well as being made to kiss Bratty. So I suspect Asriel, may have been such a people-pleaser, such a pushover, that he struggled to reject anyone, or explicitly state his own interests. I wonder if Noelle was perceptive to this, or even witnessed a particular conflict. I've always wondered why, exactly, she is so pessimistic... while I know Kris is obtuse and cryptic, and that contributes a lot, perhaps spectating some sort of humiliating event occur to someone close to her, could explain even more... could make her paranoid, "what if that happened to me....?"... she's a paranoid girl in general, eh...

Huge fucking reveal also that SUSIE THOUGHT KRIS AND NOELLE WERE DATING??????????? explosions.................................. this, as part of the explanation for her behavior towards Kris early on, holy fuck!! Funnyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!! THE LESBIAN INCEL [points] many such cases!!! It makes me think though, man, Kris must have looked like an asshole partner LOL... being all quiet and often expressionless while a girl hands you pencils and helps you with homework. Susie trying to make heads or tails of this.... it also adds a lottttt to her previous reaction to her seeing the ferris wheel photo of Kris & Noelle on Dess's wall. Susie being faced with "what are they, to each other...?" is so funny. Honestly Susie, they don't know any better than you do, I think.... everyone here is so helpless......

and uhm lastly. Ralsei really was such a sminch this chapter, not just being mean to others, but even being a bit smug about Kris liking them in some dialogues...? Hellooooooo....
Big fan of Ralsei impulsively revealing he has fire magic (: hmmmmmmmm... who else has fire magic I wonder.... wasn't there some sort of family of monsters, in UNDERTALE...? Oohh but DELTARUNE isn't UNDERTALE, so it must mean nothing.... ^^

Ralsei trying to yellll at Flowery for pretending to be something he's not, and giving himself 999 whatever power.... and Flowery simply pointing out the hypocrisy... thats right BITCH!!!!!!!!! Omega Idiot.

Princess Ralsei... [suddenly throws my body against the wall over and over] why would this happen... oh, I'll be YOUR princess, Kris.... my life has been endangered. Why would this happen... a doujinshi has taken over the game file. I don't know how this has happened... where do we go from here. [unsticking my bloody body from the wall]

Sometimes I wish I could live the peaceful life of people who think "the game wouldn't Go There". It must be so tranquil, stable, secure. In the same chapter we can have Ralsei obliquely dodging Asgore (because he would. recognize him.) and crossdressing to appeal to Kris.

Oh yeah... the Mew Mew stuff. Feels as blatant as the Gerson Ghost stuff, with regards to foreshadowing. I greatly enjoyed Ralsei being uncharacteristically kind & helpful, spectating such a situation of a soul & body fighting conflicting desires. To say it plainly, I think it reminded Ralsei of Kris. It's important to not hate any part of yourself... or you will suffer your connection to yourself. Ralsei has taken discrete care, to compliment both BODY & SOUL of Kris.... in particular, when both sides play piano (with distinct contrast in their abilities). I don't think Ralsei wants either to be neglected, rejected, or hated... both make up Kris.

OK... methinks that is enough for now.... I can try to extrapolate on specific things on request though >> it was so much game to consider, huh.... I've forgotten probably 1 million things...

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